Comments on: Intellectual vs. Actual Technique http://www.classicalguitar.org/2009/08/intellectual-vs-actual-technique/ Classical Guitar Lessons, Interview, News, Tips & More Mon, 06 Feb 2012 02:11:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Steve C http://www.classicalguitar.org/2009/08/intellectual-vs-actual-technique/#comment-1183 Steve C Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:32:57 +0000 http://www.classicalguitarblog.net/?p=1962#comment-1183 I think this overintellectualising (is this a word?) is common in older beginner players like myself. We like to deconstruct everything down to so much detail that we tend to forget that playing guitar is really a physical thing that requires physical training. Sometimes I have to be careful that I don't spend too much time/money on books etc explaining the finite detail of playing that could be better spent practicing actual music. Enjoying your blog Chris, good stuff! I think this overintellectualising (is this a word?) is common in older beginner players like myself. We like to deconstruct everything down to so much detail that we tend to forget that playing guitar is really a physical thing that requires physical training. Sometimes I have to be careful that I don’t spend too much time/money on books etc explaining the finite detail of playing that could be better spent practicing actual music. Enjoying your blog Chris, good stuff!

]]> By: Aidy Eaton http://www.classicalguitar.org/2009/08/intellectual-vs-actual-technique/#comment-1174 Aidy Eaton Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:57:22 +0000 http://www.classicalguitarblog.net/?p=1962#comment-1174 Every guitarist likes to read about technique. Broad generalisation. We try out concepts too.... vague. Needs clarification. What concepts? How try? just be doing something... vague. Sounds mindless.. which I know you don't advocate. Intellectual technique v's actual. False meaningless distinction/ construct. Someone made this label. Free/ rest stroke.. natural. for whom? I've seen children naturally flick the string outward with the nail forward. Agreed avoid tedious explanations but also vague generalisations. Is it like making little fists? how you describe...follow actual movement? What would be the point of describing faulty movement? Practise makes permanent.. not perfect. It there was a choice, I'd intelligently identify specific areas for improvement, read broadly, consult widely then apply what was relevant and appropriate to my specific needs. I read Anthony Glise's Handbook. He mentioned open and closed hand schools. I knew about planting from Tennant's P.Nylon but Glise elborated and took my thinking in directions I'd never naturally discover. I think your article is interesting.The real issue is one of metacognition and self-awareness/ regulation. rather than false distinctions between intellectual and actual technique. Therefore, encourage your readers to video a performance and review it intelligently. Every guitarist likes to read about technique. Broad generalisation.
We try out concepts too…. vague. Needs clarification. What concepts? How try?
just be doing something… vague. Sounds mindless.. which I know you don’t advocate.
Intellectual technique v’s actual. False meaningless distinction/ construct. Someone made this label.
Free/ rest stroke.. natural. for whom? I’ve seen children naturally flick the string outward with the nail forward.
Agreed avoid tedious explanations but also vague generalisations. Is it like making little fists?
how you describe…follow actual movement? What would be the point of describing faulty movement? Practise makes permanent.. not perfect. It there was a choice, I’d intelligently identify specific areas for improvement, read broadly, consult widely then apply what was relevant and appropriate to my specific needs.
I read Anthony Glise’s Handbook. He mentioned open and closed hand schools. I knew about planting from Tennant’s P.Nylon but Glise elborated and took my thinking in directions I’d never naturally discover. I think your article is interesting.The real issue is one of metacognition and self-awareness/ regulation. rather than false distinctions between intellectual and actual technique. Therefore, encourage your readers to video a performance and review it intelligently.

]]> By: Eduardo Martinez http://www.classicalguitar.org/2009/08/intellectual-vs-actual-technique/#comment-1169 Eduardo Martinez Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:52:04 +0000 http://www.classicalguitarblog.net/?p=1962#comment-1169 Hi Chris, Interesting subject. As a practicing guitarist & T'ai Chi teacher, I see the connection. It is difficult to explain in words how to move, while direct experience in movement is necessary. Practice, as you expose, creates two distinct "memories" that we need to master a movement: kinestetic (movement memory), & positional memory (where our bodies & parts are at any point in time relative to each other.) Practice is the only way to create these two memories, while words can help explain how to get started. Each complement each other. Blessings, Eduardo Martinez Hi Chris,

Interesting subject. As a practicing guitarist & T’ai Chi teacher, I see the connection. It is difficult to explain in words how to move, while direct experience in movement is necessary. Practice, as you expose, creates two distinct “memories” that we need to master a movement: kinestetic (movement memory), & positional memory (where our bodies & parts are at any point in time relative to each other.) Practice is the only way to create these two memories, while words can help explain how to get started. Each complement each other.

Blessings,

Eduardo Martinez

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